In that situation, he was the loser. All of these ping towers are near Best Buy, Koenig states in Episode 5. You can't start drawing conclusions like that. Shes a high school girl, Oh, hes cute, Oh, whateverthings fizzleout. Jay says: He went to the mall alone. I think and, look, its been 15 years about 6 p.m. Salvatore Bianca BPD Trace Analysis Unit tech p71 She's a high school girl,' Oh, Jay Wilds's cute, Oh, whatever' -- things fizzle out. And then I would only give them information pertaining to my interaction with someone or where I was. He saw himself as a target. Rabia Chaudry, the Syed family friend and attorney who originally brought Syed's case to the attention of Serial host Sarah Koenig, today took to Twitter to point out what she sees as inconsistencies in the story Wilds is now telling compared to the account of events he offered at Syed's trial. Your culture and entertainment cheat-sheet. Google Pay. They didnt have to go by us, except to come to lunch, and that was it. Discovery Company. When was the first time you hung out with Adnan? By submitting your email, you agree to our, Serial revisited: Jay's interview shreds the case against AdnanSyed, I don't think Jay's lies prove Adnan's innocence. When she mentioned it to Wilds, "he quickly brushed it off: No ' [I was an] an accessory,' 'no, I did this, nothing," Horton says. 2. #TheJayInterview #ThankYouIntercept #FreeAdnan #PerjuryFTW, So yeah, i'm not sleeping tonight. He has never wavered on that point." Maybe Jays a liar. Why has your story changed over time? Yes. Updated Adnan's phone log also documents a couple of calls to Jenn's house, at 12:07 p.m. and 12:41 p.m., which make sense if Jay had the phone and wanted to see who was home. He was magnet. They were granted Syeds cell phone call records and then looked at two recipients of calls from Syeds phone: Jennifer Pusateri and Wilds. Theres also the added fact that Wilds boss at the time told people Wilds had to leave work several times to talk with the police before the date of that official interview. Photo: Natasha Vargas-Cooper for The Intercept, Natasha Vargas-Cooper[emailprotected]theintercept.org@natashavc. But she seemed to be more mature, like she was two, three, four years older than us. I don't know Adnan, andI don't think Jay's lies prove Adnan's innocence. Reason 1: Jay willingly comes forward to implicate himself and his friend in a murder that neither of them had anything to do with because it was committed by an alternate suspect. When reached by BuzzFeed News, a representative of Serial had no comment in response to Wilds interview, in light of the fact that the full transcript has not yet been released. Fans of "Serial" were given a bit of an epilogue on Monday: Jay Wilds, the state's key witness in its case against Adnan Syed, agreed to an on-the-record interview. Wilds then remembered driving in Adnan's car to Best Buy, where he found Adnan (who wasn't with any car). So the deal didn't happen #FreeAdnan. It's guilt that has to be proven. #FreeAdnan #MerryChristmas, I just can't even. And thats not necessarily mebut that is my family, that is my uncles and cousins. And, lastly, she points out that an important car from the trial is now missing in his account of the day. Just a giant farce that would be comical if not for the devastating consequences. 12 lowendtheory24 6 mo. But the fact that Wilds' story shifted so much has many "Serial" fans saying he wasn't ever a credible witness. Were you involved?" He said no.. Officer Adcock also testified that he was probably the 6:24 p.m. incoming call on Adnan's cellphone log, which would have been during that time. Haes car could have been in the parking lot, but I didnt know what it looked like so I dont remember. Proceedings close p256. 7 acceptable_bagel 6 mo. COMING NEXT: PART 2, Jays theory on the anonymous caller, why he agreed to testify in the states case against Adnan, and how Serial showed up at his front door. Its starting to get dark, so between 3p.m. Jay says: Adnan probably wasn't with Hae's car at Best Buy. July 1, 2016. Adnans first trial was delayed for a few months, but eventually started on 8th December 1999. I pick him up he doesnt have any car with him. Discussion re voir dire p3 In another interview, he said the body was on Edmondson Avenue, while a detective testified in court that Wilds told him the body was on Franklintown Road. The internet is thick with lists of Jay's lies (here's one, for instance). "Definitely the idea that the body was buried after midnight. Consequently, Wilds is a looming figure in Sarah Koenig and Julie Snyders reporting about the trial. The taps on the recording, some have decided, may have been the sound of someone writing pen to paper very quickly on a hard surface, or just a little physical cue that Wilds needed to come up with the right answer fast. Were sitting there smoking and he receives a phone call from the police and gets all panicky. The details of his story changed on each telling. And he wasn't talking. I dont feel comfortable drawing conclusions like that. They did not tell the defense that someone got an actual cash reward that was handed to them by a detective on the case. In both, Syed's guilt is questioned, as is Wilds's statements. It takes him about half an hour, 45 minutes, and he comes back with gloves on, panting, like, She was really heavy. Thats all he says. Supposed evidence of this relates to how the reward money was paid out. This led to Quarles declaring a mistrial. Losing track of how many times Jay's story has changed. It wasn't like, 'Oh, we're down in the park, come on down.' We were friendly, we were. Jay Wilds assumed a private life after playing a pivotal role in the prosecutions case against Adnan Syed. I said, Drug dealers, people who get killed by drug dealers, and Im thinking to myself, When did I ever say that? So, as Im riding with him to the park and it starts raining and Im thinking to myself as he pulls overand Im thinking this is the spot hes chosen. Syed was put on trial in February 2000 and was convicted of the murder of his girlfriend Hae Min Lee. I can't be as confident as Chaudry. But look, if we start speculating what he was thinking that far ahead I dont know. I said, Isnt he a paramedic? And she said, Nah, hes cool, plus he wants to buy., I didnt trust him at first, since he wasnt like the people I knew pot smokers you know? But they don't need to. In September, a legal team formed to represent Wilds and also quickly worked out a plea deal to testify against Syed. He refused. There are files with all the events from each day, but beware, those files are often very large and may take a little time to open or download. Where was Haes car? Then what happens, and what time is it roughly? Wilds also shares a follow-up email. However, I do have a note fromAltemate Number 4, In view of that fact that youve determined that Ms. Gutierrez is a liar, will she be removed? He feared implicating people he loved. Its in the evening after school, we never hung out in the morning. I dont know if she said something he couldnt handle, and he went off the edge or if he had been seriously speculating about it. No until they told me they werent trying to prosecute me for selling weed, or trying to get any of my friends in trouble. He was a little pompous, a little arrogant, but he seemed really driven as far as his academics, but all those magnet students were. He told the police enough to get them off his back, but he withheld anything he thought might widen their investigation to his friends and his family. "It just makes me feel like, what else is he capable of from the situation that we've been through?" Episode 2 ends with Horton placing a call to talk to Wilds about what happened back in 1999. In one interview with police he tells them Adnan showed him Hae's body on Edmonson Avenue. Now, he doesn't mention this at all, because he said he wasn't sure where Hae's car was at the time. Syeds trial, and Jays testimony, became the focus of a This American Life spinoff series, the 12-part podcast Serial, broadcast in the fall of this year. One big theory being floated around is that Wilds was the anonymous tipster who called Detective Massey and told police to focus on the ex-boyfriend. I was pretty distraught, fucked up, feeling guilty for not saying nothing. Jay's actions here may not be right. Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I was also running [drug] operations from my grandmothers house. From the mall. It took about 45 minutes for Adnan to finish burying Hae, according to Jay. #FreeAdnan. Adnan apparently opened the trunk of Hae's car and showed Jay her body. It was just at the end of my junior year, so about 16. We know: At trial, Jay said he went shopping with Adnan. Without Jays testimony, the prosecution had no case. Sergeant Kevin Forrester BPD homicide sergeant p56 There are also a few incoming calls at this point, but unfortunately, the records don't show us who they came from. Adnan's motive for killing Hae never made much sense. And they were getting sentenced to three and five years. Their accounts depart when Wilds says Syed showed him the body in the trunk of the car, and then Syed enlisted Wilds to bury Lee. I saw the ATF and DEA take down guys in my neighborhood for selling much less than I was at the time. This is the first part in a multipart interview. Reason 2: Jay is one of the alternate suspects. I was also around a bunch of people earlier the day [at Cathys], and I didnt want them to get fucked up with homicide. She showed up on his doorstep one day and begged him to talk for her series. CNNs Sarah Aarthun contributed to this report. And Jay's attorney from that time told me in an email that the prosecutor had threatened him, a black kid, with prosecuting him in Balt county, a white county & with the death penalty. Motion denied p6 All we know about Alain Marceau, talked about the impact of Jays testimony. Wilds also called out Koenig, saying she "demonized him," and added that he felt if he had talked to her . He had a professional job in high school, he was aparamedic or something [Ed. I met him while I was still at Woodlawn, so around 1998. pic.twitter.com/k1CioGE2la, So yeah, i'm not sleeping tonight. A large portion of The Case Against Adnan Syed and Serial focuses on why Wilds would change his story so many times. I remember the highway traffic to my right, and I remember standing there on the curb. One such person was Jennifer Pusateri, who had a vital interaction with Syed and alleged accomplice Jay Wilds on Jan. 13, 1999, the night Lee, a high school student in Baltimore, was murdered. This interview is the first time Jay has spoken publicly about events surrounding Lees death and the trial that ended in Syeds conviction. He knew I was afraid of that. Yes. No. This is where it was produced. "I said before that the prosecution's case was dead. But nor was there good reason to disbelieve Jay. One person who missed college because of Jay was Adnan Syed. Cathy has people over when we get there. Adnan Syed is currently serving life in prison, plus 30 years, for a murder he claims he didn't commit, and he may not have ended up there if it weren't for his former classmate, Jay Wilds. "I just felt like she was lying," Wilds says. But, like I said, I dont know how to come up with this story about how Adnan did it, why he did it, what he was thinking, how he was thinking, and why he was thinking that. I dont necessarily know if he meant to kill Hae before he did it or if it was a sudden moment thing, but looking at his life, from what I saw, he seemed to be far out of his realm when it came to Hae leaving him. Jay says: It wasnt just like I was selling a nickel bag here and there. Then there's the matter of where Wilds saw Lee's dead body for the first time. Baltimore police were already focusing their investigation on Syed after an anonymous tip told them to look at Lees ex. After all, Jay did know where Hae's car was, and while Adnan didn't have much reason to kill Hae, Jay had even less reason to kill her. CNN Sans & 2016 Cable News Network. ago It's possible but I think Jenn's 'evidence' is a little suspect too. Wilds told Vargas-Cooper that he didn't trust the police at the time. Joining is simple and doesnt need to cost a lot: You can become a sustaining member for as little as $3 or $5 a month. Urick did not let him walk into that interview blind. Listening to Serial, the hole for me has always been motive. It doesnt seem like enough of a reason to not talk to the police. Jay says: The "trunk pop" happened outside his grandmother's house.Back at his grandmother's house trying to collect himself, Jay told The Intercept he received a call from Adnan, who was either outside right then or on his way over. Jay is involved. Defendant: Adnan Syed Support our mission and help keep Vox free for all by making a financial contribution to Vox today. He said, Youve gotta help me, or Im gonna tell the cops about you and the weed and all that shit. And then he popped the trunk and I saw Haes body. He had chosen a jury trial. He spoke with The Intercept's Natasha Vargas-Cooper. But he didnt call me unless he needed something. Getting them in trouble for anything that they knew or that I had told them I couldnt have that. He had this very detailed story of pulling into Best Buy; Adnan is wearing these red gloves. At times he even apologizes, as though he were trained to say something specifically and had forgotten. This content is imported from twitter. Officer Scott Adcock County PD officer who responded to initial call on January 13 p37 He claims Adnan strangled Hae, showed Jay the body and made Jay help bury Hae's body. I think that was Jay Wilds first real girlfriend, and I think that's why Jay Wilds reaction was so strong. Thats led to some wild and totally unproven ideas on reddit, notably that Adnan hired Jay as a kind of hitman. Consider what the world of media would look like without The Intercept. Jay Wilds was a crucial player in Adnans conviction he testified that Adnan confessed to him about killing Lee, saw Lees body in the trunk of her car, and helped bury her body in Leakin Park. Thats the best way I can account for the inconsistencies. He was having a hard enough time with that itself. He also makes clear that his cooperation with the police was reluctant at best. He just seemed like someone who didnt smoke weed too much. I saw her body later, in front ofof my grandmothers house where I was living. Jay sounds like he's in some middle school play where everyone is horrible at acting and just robotically mouthing the words they're supposed to say. Romano Thomas BPD Mobile Crime Lab tech p103, Motion for mistrial granted p 255 "Jay testified early on that the police said were considering charging you with this murder. Almost by definition, the testimony of someone who repeatedly lies to you is not beyond a reasonable doubt; it's testimony that you would be unreasonable not to doubt. If Wilds did receive the reward money for being the tipster, but that information wasnt disclosed, that would have immediately led to a new trial. Adnan is in jail for life because of the testimony of Jay, who lied to the cops, changed his story under oath, and is still changing his story even today. What else could motivate you to choke the life out of someone you cared about? ), Defense objection to seating Juror Number 6 p2, Defense motion in limine to instruct jurors not to read any newspapers for the duration of the trial (denied) p11, Presidents Day, National Holiday. But that testimony shifting and shot through with holes as it is is all the prosecution had. But his manager was his mom. During the defense's cross-examination of E. Jean Carroll, Trump's attorney asked the writer why she "did not scream" when she was "supposedly raped.". Adnan and Jay seemed to be good enough friends to one another and seemed to spend a good amount of time together. Syed is currently serving a life sentence. They often smoked weed together and quite a lot on the day Hae went missing. Jarett Wieselman is a senior entertainment editor for BuzzFeed News and is based in Los Angeles. Jay said:I feel like [Koenig] created an evil archetype of me and sensationalized my motives. I didnt know that he planned to murder her that day. And it was really hard for him to deal with being on the losing end. Hae was dead before she got to my house. And I found that to be a bit of a slap in the face. (Wilds would later lead the police to Lees car, parked on a residential street.) He was a little pompous, a little arrogant, but he seemed really driven as far as his academics, but all those magnet students were. You can also contribute via. So that would ruin her life too. Something definite in both media arguments is Wilds's change in story. Wilds also said he has been misunderstood because of Serial. He left in his car and I was trying to collect myself at my [grandmothers] house. People had lives and were trying to get into college and stuff like that. So where is Wilds today? "He might really have just been bulls******* at the time. He did, after all, give multiple conflicting locations for where the murder took place and where the body was found. Part of HuffPost Entertainment. I was a bit of an outdoorsman, adventure seeker, fishing, camping, learned to ride a motorcycle. "The embarrassment is just going to keep growing over this," Laura Harth, the campaign director at Safeguard Defenders, told Newsweek. When police were investigating Lees murder, CrimeStoppers offered a $3,075 reward for any information that would lead to the arrest of the murderer. It helped fan the flames of this story that. Who paged Jay's friend Jenn twice around 8 p.m. that night? At Vox, we believe that everyone deserves access to information that helps them understand and shape the world they live in. A Warner Bros. Judge Wanda Heards comments p15. There was only Jay's testimony which seemed, at least in the prosecution's telling, to be backed up by cell phone records. In Wilds' newest version of events, Adnan was in his car with Jay instead of being at his last period of school. Courts not in session, Detective Gregory MacGillivary BPD homicide detective, Judge Heard instructions to the jury p23. Hae. "I feel like [Koenig] created an evil archetype of me and sensationalized my motives. Been saying some special Islamo-prayers for Jay to open his mouth & exonerate Adnan. This is where it was produced. We drive over toCathys house to smoke. I made him smoke one time, he got a little high, got a little weird. We get into his car, and he drives up around the corner to Haes car. (Although he could have used a different phone.). By the time I graduated [Woodlawn] high school in 1998, I wasnt exactly angry, but I did resent the school. The prosecutors ask the jury to believe him anyway. Andrew Davis Defense private investigator p78 Dorseys sentencing argument (Adnans new lawyer) p13 Though Wilds didnt participate in Serial, he did conduct a .css-16acfp5{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness:0.125rem;text-decoration-color:#d2232e;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:inherit;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}.css-16acfp5:hover{color:#000;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;background-color:yellow;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}three-part interview with The Intercepts Natasha Vargas-Cooper, and attorney Rabia Chaudry (also Syeds childhood friend) launched the Undisclosed podcast, both of which add layers to the mystery enshrouding Wilds testimony. Ill call you from someone elses phone when Im done.. He seemed a little bit more uptight than the. This fact cannot be disputed. I really didnt know much about their relationship, if they hung out, where they hung out, when they hung out. Adnan says, Just help me dig the hole. And Im still thinking, Inner-city black guy, selling pot to high school kids. The cops are going to fry me. (Again.

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